Transcript of Frankel's Free Clinic May 11, 1998
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 8:56 AM): Entered the room.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 8:57 AM): Entered the room.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 8:57 AM): Greetings
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 8:58 AM): Obivously, we're working with a new chat script
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 8:59 AM): Sekhar, what can we do for you today?
Kellie (5/11/98 9:02 AM): Entered the room.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:02 AM): (Munching doughnut)
Tina Thomas (5/11/98 9:02 AM): Entered the room.
Tina Thomas (5/11/98 9:03 AM): Hello All!
Richard Wilson (5/11/98 9:03 AM): Entered the room.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:03 AM): Rob, got a brilliant suggestion today?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:03 AM): New script today. Frames don't seem to be working...
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:04 AM): Yeah...don't re-finish your floors, paint the house and re-carpet all at the same time.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:04 AM): Cute, on a roll this morning?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:04 AM): I'm at a remote location, working off a Powerbook
Tina Thomas (5/11/98 9:05 AM): Hello All!
Kellie (5/11/98 9:05 AM): Does that slow you down?
Kellie (5/11/98 9:06 AM): Thought maybe you could initiate a direction in the conversation. What's the latest, greatest method of promotion that you are using?
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:06 AM): Entered the room.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:06 AM): A little, but NOTHING CAN STOP US!
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:06 AM): Hello Rob and others, Greetings
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:06 AM): Entered the room.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:07 AM): So, where are you? Vacationing or working?
Tina Thomas (5/11/98 9:07 AM): Good Morning Doc!
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:07 AM): Well, let's start off by askng if anyone has a problem or issue they want to discuss.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:07 AM): Kell, I'm ALWAYS working. Three kids....
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:08 AM): Thanks for your offer Rob,I am into Data Conversion and Software Dev looking for a breakthrough sitting here in India
soaplady (5/11/98 9:08 AM): Entered the room.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:08 AM): Understand completely. Got a 6 year old and a 6 mo. old.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:08 AM): Here is a topic I made a note of last week - how do you sell to a community that you have built?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:08 AM): What kind of software?
soaplady (5/11/98 9:09 AM): Entered the room.
soaplady (5/11/98 9:09 AM): Hello everyone:)
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:09 AM): Morning Tina, Rob, and all
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:09 AM): Custom: VC++, Java, Y2K solutions etc...
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:09 AM): Ira, hold that thought. It's a main issue with FrankelBiz
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:10 AM): Hi Doc. Sekhar, what kind of breakthrough you looking for?
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:10 AM): OK - hold it til when, though? ;)
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:10 AM): I do not have a stable connect. Do not mistake if my link get broken in the middle
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:11 AM): ..til we get Sekhar's issue straight!
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:11 AM): More Clients, more business. My rates are about 20 % cheaper when compared to US rates. $500 vs. $600 (for data conversion)
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:11 AM): Entered the room.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:12 AM): Thanks Rob
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:12 AM): Sekhar, what do you mean a "breakthrough" ? The next great "killer app idea" or some small increment in technology that will be something you can sell by creating a version of your own?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:12 AM): Sekhar, I can tell you right now that cheap doesn't matter when it comes to data. RELIABLE counts.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:13 AM): The biggest mistake that newbies make in biz is UNDERCHARGING,
Kellie (5/11/98 9:13 AM): Sekhar, what are you doing WRT Y2K?
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:13 AM): Yes, I do agree. But how do I prove I am reliable unless I get the first Order
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:14 AM): Kellie: Impact Analysis, Remediation...
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:14 AM): People who buy serivces want to know that the job will get done quickly and accuately
Tina Thomas (5/11/98 9:14 AM): Sorry gang... just got confirmation of an appointment in 20 min... look forward to reading the great thoughts ya'll have today... talk to you later Rob... Bye! :)
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:14 AM): In fact, if you are a REAL pro, your rates should be HIGHER than market.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:15 AM): Sekhar, have you looked into partnering with companies that are based in the countries you are trying to market your services in? You could leverage their reputation, and sell to their clients. You still need to prove you are reliable to them, but then their customers will take their word for it.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:15 AM): Ira: Hi, Yes I have been trying to get a partnership but no ties up yet.
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:15 AM): Offshore programming needs to be more than 20% cheaper to cover the inconvenience (not to mention additional expenses of long distance phone calls, nevermind travel) for that offshore wages/costs advantage to show up. An alliance with a major firm can go a very long way in promoting you reliability. Or a specialty like Cold Fusion programming might help.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:15 AM): Ira: Hi, Yes I have been trying to get a partnership but no ties up yet.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:16 AM): Exellent, Ira. Plus, you have to name drop the companies for whom you have worked in the past.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:16 AM): Doc: The main USP of Offshore conversion isthat we are economical
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:16 AM): Doc: The main USP of Offshore conversion isthat we are economical
Kellie (5/11/98 9:16 AM): Sekhar, site address?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:17 AM): Remember, Sekhar, EVERYONE wants their own Secret Weapon consultant. Someone they can use to make themselves look good.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:17 AM): New one coming up in a week's time:
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:18 AM): Rob: How do I find that S W Consultant
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:18 AM): Ira, what was your issue?
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:19 AM): Hello, Frankelbees. This is my first message to you all, even though I've been a charter member from the beginning. This is our situation : My wife and I are and we need catalogues of bridal gifts to sell on our site.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:19 AM): Rob, just when my mind was starting to work on Sekhar's issue, you want me to switch back? ;-)
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:19 AM): Rob, just when my mind was starting to work on Sekhar's issue, you want me to switch back? ;-
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:19 AM): Start identifying targets that need you. Then tell them how you can make them more efficient.
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:19 AM): New domain should help some. A geocities site looks (at best) "small". But YOU need to BE that SW Consultant secret weapon! (for other people, esp with cost/price advantage.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:20 AM): Okay, we'll go to Dale. What's the problem Dale?
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:20 AM): How do I get the message across that I am there
soaplady (5/11/98 9:21 AM): Hi Dale!
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:21 AM): Our first ad is appearing in Modern Bride on June 23rd. We expect several thousand brides to visit our site, but we need to have gifts for them to choose and build their registry from.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:21 AM): Dale, have you talked with our sponsor this week? WGI is great at listing sites, for starters.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:22 AM): Sedhar, you mean how do you promote your Web site? What have you done so far? How have you gotten your customers up to this point in time?
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:22 AM): Not yet, but this is one of our top priorities, thanks.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:23 AM): Dale, you're smart to hook up with MB. But don't stop there...
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:23 AM): Sekhar, you register/list your site with LOTS of search engines, make sure your meta words in pages match the submission, and pick a "specialty" area (I'm pushing Cold Fusion programming right now because it is relatively easy to do, to deploy and for you to learn, if you don't already know) Actually SQL programming might be an even better "specialty " to list under as you main "attractor".
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:23 AM): I would storngly suggest you widen your scope on the web.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:23 AM): Ira: After my web presence I have got clients from Bahrain and Germany. But not the big ones who feed us regularly
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:24 AM): Work with ancillary categories:
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:24 AM): We're not, but this is the beginning. We are also putting a banner ad on their website to get the Internet savvy brides to our site. Then we will get into the other bridal publications.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:24 AM): Thanks Doc. Will do that
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:25 AM): Other categories include women's stuff: amazoncities, babyzone, that kind of stuff
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:26 AM): The web is EXCELLENT for marketing to women. They are a very communal group and share information well
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:26 AM): Our site also will appeal to every vendor category in the wedding industry. Part of our site sends out every vendor within 60 miles of every bride when she registers on our site, so we are advertising in Limousine & Chauffeur, Florist, Professional Photography, Wedding & Event Videography etc.
soaplady (5/11/98 9:26 AM): well, I must say I agree with Rob there
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:27 AM): Sekhar, send me your email address ( and I will talk to you about more we might be able to do together (at an "offline" time from this discussion group).
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:27 AM): Sekhar, you should also look for discussion groups you can be active in that could lead to business... you should especially look for partners who have an existing client base you can leverage, those may be the easiest people to find in discussin groups.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:27 AM): Since bridal is an ephemeral category, you cannot count on hitting your targets at just the right time
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:28 AM): Dale, your goal is to seed your site into women's mind's so that yours is the fist site they thinko when they do need bridal stuff, dig?
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:28 AM): Soaplady, any progress on Lynn, or Jasper?
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:28 AM): Doc: Noted. Will write to you.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:28 AM): Sekhar, what time is it where you are?
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:29 AM): Ira: Is there any specific group relating to data conversion/Offshore processing
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:29 AM): So the main thing we are looking for now is PRODUCT. If anyone out there has relations with some catalogue fulfillment companies, this is where we can be of mutual benefit to all involved. Yes, Rob, that is exactly our goal. To be the biggerst and easiest site for the bride to get her gifts, with no duplication and with incredible ease to her friends.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:29 AM): In Madras, India it is 9:50 P.M
soaplady (5/11/98 9:29 AM): wroking on it Doc, curing a new line of soaps and I wills end those to them :)
soaplady (5/11/98 9:30 AM): yikes, I meant I will send my new line out to them :)
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:30 AM): Rob and that is another advantage which we project. WE process when YOU sleep
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:30 AM): Sekhar, not sure, but you can check - but even if there are such groups, you may find they are for people in the industry, who may be more like competition than partners or clients... figure out who your ideal partners are, and look for groups they would be in.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:31 AM): For product, are you looking for name brands or hard-tofind stuff?
Kellie (5/11/98 9:31 AM): Dale, I came across a store once that allowed gift-givers to 'purchase' a gift and have a card sent to the bride describing the gift purchased. She could elect to have the gift, or immediately convert to cash on account to buy something she would rather have. It was a great marketing tool, because there wasn't all of that hassle with duplicate gifts and returning massive amounts of stuff to the stores. Could you do some thing like that?
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:31 AM): We are trying to get a deal with Kitchen Etc. to put their 30,000 item catalogue on our site. Anything that a bride and groom would need to establish a new home would be perfect for our site.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:32 AM): Ira: Thanks.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:32 AM): Dale,have you met Soaplady? Perfect fit and she probbly knows others with unique stuff
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:32 AM): How about selling Gift Coupons online
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:33 AM): Dale, you got online commerce?
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:33 AM): Sekhar, the advantage of working while others sleep is especially important considering the rates for "third shift" workers locally is higher than day rates, this means your rates may be even better than 20% less than your competition.
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:33 AM): No, Kellie, we couldn't do that, because we are just scooping up orders and forwarding them to the various suppliers, minus our percentage for the maintenance of our site and the advertising we will handle.
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:34 AM): No, I haven't talked with soaplady yet.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:34 AM): Ira: You are giving me ideas.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:34 AM): Registry is big with department stores. Most have online services already. Steal their best ideas and then offer what they don't.
soaplady (5/11/98 9:34 AM): yes, Dale, you sure have :)
soaplady (5/11/98 9:35 AM): my site is
soaplady (5/11/98 9:35 AM): darn it
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:35 AM): Rob, you wouldn't believe this, but the main thing they don't have is online buying capabilities. Sorry, Soaplady, I didn't realize this was you ! !
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:35 AM): Uh oh...soaplady's controversey!
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:35 AM): Dale, do you have e-commerce set up?
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:36 AM): Dale, if you aren't getting full wholesale to retail markup margins, then the "you will be sent this gift OR you can elect a gift certificate of $XX if this is a duplicate" kind of certificate sounds like it could very nicely fit into you concept. Maybe gift certificate from YOU, maybe elsewhere.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:36 AM): Dale, another kitchen site you might check with is - if you contact them, tell them I sent you. Kathie Christian is the owner.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:37 AM): Thanks, Doc. I was still thinking it would work!
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:37 AM): My web guys are going to use Cybercash for online buying. Thanks, Ira, we sure will. And yes, Doc, we'll look into this !
Kellie (5/11/98 9:38 AM): Thanks, Doc. I was still thinking it would work!
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:39 AM): Dale, also think about opening a satellite store with viaweb or icat. Both of these have groups of vendors you can associate with.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:39 AM): This is one area where the mall concept might work, even though I hate malls and think they don't do much.
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:40 AM): We'll look at these, Rob. Thank you.
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:41 AM): My "quest" for today is that I deliver video over the internet. One use for this is tiny video pieces INSIDE banner ads. I do not own a banner ad network (or at present the software to run one) I am looking for an established banner ad network who needs someone to "host/deliver" the video portion of such advanced 'multimedia' video banner ads as an ally or joint venturer. Anyone got that kind of connection or suggestions?
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:41 AM): OK, back to the issue I mentioned early on... once you build a community, how do you sell stuff to them? How far can you "push" the people who join your community to buy your products or services without losing real prospects?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:41 AM): I'm assuming, Dale, that product sales are your goal, not banner ads...
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:41 AM): Ira, define your community...
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:42 AM): Dale, Kellie deserves credit for that idea. I hope it works for you.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:42 AM): Ira, is MTOTD your community? Is that why you created that list?
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:42 AM): Definitely. . . We aren't even going to have banner ads on our site. Although we will have ads from major manufacturers like Oneida and Lenox showing their product.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:42 AM): :-)))
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:43 AM): I'm talking about a community such as a newsletter subscriber base, a discussion group subscribe base, people who participate on a Web forum, etc.
Jorge R (5/11/98 9:43 AM): Entered the room.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:44 AM): Ira: You use the "balant plugs:" very well already
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:44 AM): Okay, you want the dope on FrankelBiz? Is that what you're asking? OR MTOTD?
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:44 AM): Kellie, I am thinking about MTOTD as my community, but I also work with clients on their comnunities... I'm not trying to limit this to any one group...
Jorge R (5/11/98 9:45 AM): Hello all. Sorry for the delay.Ira you can offer paid services with improvements over the free services. Then you start to sell something.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:45 AM): Sorry, not meaning to pinpoint. Just wondered if MTOTD was created to be a tool to sell when you first started?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:46 AM): My feeling, Ira, is that the web has moved from infancy to puberty. Talking about stuff still has value, but producing is where it's going.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:46 AM): I guess that was a stupid question. All tools should be selling tools, huh Rob?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:46 AM): FrankelBiz could have been just another yack list.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:46 AM): Yes, Kellie, I have always felt I'd be able to sell to mtotd subscribers. I've had some success, but not as much as I'd idealy like :)
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:46 AM): EVERYTHING is sales, Kellie. You are correct.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:47 AM): So, what do you want to sell? You could vary your ad space. My eyes jump right past that "Clearly Internet" plug every time.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:47 AM): Sorry to say! :(
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:48 AM): Ira, I have sponsors lining up for FrankelBiz. Not all are appropriate. But all love the idea of integrating with an ally that can really help their business.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:49 AM): If you want to crank it up, Ira, the secret is in ONE word...
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:49 AM): Rob, I use a similar analagy, but I say we have moved from infancy into a todler stage - I don't think we have come close to puberty yet. :) One of my clients uses a baseball analagy, says we're in the bottom of the first inning at this point (for those of you who don't know baseball, that is the second half of the first out of 9 innings :)
Kellie (5/11/98 9:49 AM): Anyone have any neat ideas for contests? I've been thinking about doing some give-aways, an entry with each order kind of thing. Rob, any thoughts on this?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:49 AM): Anyone care to guess?
soaplady (5/11/98 9:49 AM): i have to say, that I too, merely scan down past the ad in the MTOTD
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:49 AM): FREE?
Kellie (5/11/98 9:50 AM): Promote?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:50 AM): Nope. (TEN MINUTE WARNING)
Jorge R (5/11/98 9:50 AM): sex?
Kellie (5/11/98 9:51 AM): We don't have time to guess, Rob! Get to it!!
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:51 AM): Buy one. Get two free.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:51 AM): I do vary the content of the ad to some degree... is changing the content more often enough, or should I try other things. Move the ad? Use more of the "blatant plug" or "advertorial" approach?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:51 AM): Do you REALLY want to know????
Kellie (5/11/98 9:51 AM): Yes, yes, yes!!!!
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:52 AM): YES!
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:52 AM): Beg me.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:52 AM): Ira, move it around, place it differently, make it appear not to be an ad!
Kellie (5/11/98 9:52 AM): I thought I just did!
Kellie (5/11/98 9:52 AM): Exactly what form of begging are you looking for?
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:52 AM): Nope, can't keep 'em dangling forever, my coffee's ready, I'll be back in 2 minutes.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:52 AM): Okay....the word is:.....
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:53 AM): PROGRAMS.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:53 AM): What?
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:53 AM): Timing is EVERYTHING.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:53 AM): Not exactly what I was expecting...
soaplady (5/11/98 9:54 AM): i am lost, what does Kellie do?
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:54 AM): Programs? As in software?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:54 AM): No, Ira: You're still in "info" stage. What you need to do is create a program that helps actuate business activity.
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:54 AM): PROGRAMS=Series of gifts ?????
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:54 AM): What!!??
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:55 AM): Say again, Rob, WHAT??
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:55 AM): FrankelBiz has a couple, including the business referral program with advertisers.
Jorge R (5/11/98 9:55 AM): like affiliate programs?
soaplady (5/11/98 9:55 AM): Ira, you could make it more advertorial I think :)
Kellie (5/11/98 9:55 AM): Soaplady: I sell business services, office space, secretarial, telephone answering, conference space, corporate presence for the homebased business, etc.
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:55 AM): Well, if I understand you, Rob, I'm about to launch several programs called "Marketing Modules"
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:55 AM): Kellie should have a custom program designed especially for her prospects that will add more value than just "office space"
Kellie (5/11/98 9:56 AM): Elaborate, please.
soaplady (5/11/98 9:56 AM): Kellie, is this just a local biz, or does it have net possibilties?
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 9:57 AM): A Marketing Module will be focused on a category of Internet Marketing, will contain a series of lessons delivered with, and a private Web-based discussion forum where people who take the class (for around $20) will be able to interact with each other and with me.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:57 AM): Our whole concept is being 'more than just office space'. Our tag is "Total Office Support for the Independent Business Person"
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:57 AM): Ira, you have to get a handle on who your membership is and offer them CONCRETE ways of increasing their biz.
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:57 AM): (TWO MINUTE WARNING)
Kellie (5/11/98 9:57 AM): We are located in Hsv, AL, and most of our clients are local. But our home-based program can be for anyone.
Kellie (5/11/98 9:58 AM): Yes, it has net possibilities, but I have a hard time pinning down how best to present it as such.
soaplady (5/11/98 9:58 AM): ira, i am going to use your e-trainer to put out an online soapmaking course
Dale Leonard (5/11/98 9:58 AM): Thanks, everyone, for the input today. Remember, if any of you has any contacts that develop into a business relationship with the Online Bridal Registry, there will be a finders fee, and please come check us out - ( and this is definitely a concrete way to increase sales for all our participating partners!)
Kellie (5/11/98 9:58 AM): Geez, Rob. Your clock must be wrong. It's only 9:30! :)
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 9:58 AM): Quick comment: This hour goes by faster than any other in my week. THANK YOU ROB!!!!
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 9:59 AM): An online cooking class as well soaplady?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 9:59 AM): Everyone should think about what ELSE they can offer besides your core product that will add value for your clients!
soaplady (5/11/98 9:59 AM): not quite Sekhar, but close haha
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 10:00 AM): For me, too, Doc. This is one of the added values that I get
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 10:00 AM): Thanks Rob, Ira, Doc, Kellie,Dale Soaplady and others. I really enjoyed it.
soaplady (5/11/98 10:00 AM): i see etrainer as a kind of online publishing...
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 10:00 AM): Thanks for the input, everyone...
Doc Williamson (5/11/98 10:00 AM): Ira, can we talk about maybe doing "online video" classes using my streaming video capabilities?
Rob Frankel (5/11/98 10:00 AM): everyone can hang out as long as they like, but I gotta go. THANKS EVERYONE!
Ira Pasternack (5/11/98 10:01 AM): Regarding eTrainer, look for a new excusive offer I'll be making on FrankelBiz in the next week or so :)
Kellie (5/11/98 10:01 AM): No, Rob. Thank YOU!
Sekhar from India (5/11/98 10:01 AM): Bye Rob

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